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Super
Mario and the ABCs of Social Dancing
A candid tête à
tête with the Man of the Million Moves
By Laureano Ralon
Facchina* |
Super Mario, also
known as The Million Moves Man, rapidly made a name for himself
in salsa with his smooth style, endless unique combinations and
his amazing presence on the dance floor. Born in India and an accountant
by profession, he has been dancing salsa since 1998 (with no prior
dance background). Mario's style is fast and smooth and it allows
both men and women the freedom to improvise. He prides himself that
none of his moves are choreographed and all his moves can be used
effectively with any follower, even if they have never danced with
him or his students before.
Super Mario is
based in London and specialises in cross body style, dancing on
the '1' or the '2', focusing mainly on moves and combinations, with
a lot of emphasis on leading techniques. He has taught at a number
of respected salsa festivals/congresses and is constantly expanding
his teaching skills through successful workshops around the world.
For his
contribution to salsa as a dancer and instructor he was given an
award at the LA Congress 2004. For his contributions in promoting
salsa in the UK and Israel, he was given awards at the British Salsa
Congress 2003, and the Israel Salsa Congress 2004. He has been voted
Best UK Teacher 3 years in a row, voted by students online, for
the UK congress in 2004, 2005, and 2006.
For those of us in Vancouver
who might not know who you are, please introduce yourself and if
you don’t mind, tell us how long you’ve been dancing
and how you got into Salsa.
Hi everyone. My name is Mario Hazarika
and my salsa name is Super Mario. You have to see me to understand,
why it's Super (laughs). I have been dancing for 8 years or so now.
How I got into Salsa, now let me think...
I have a small story here: it all began
after being dragged to a club for the first time. I was talking
to my friend about my relationship, when this lady walked up to
us and asked, “Are you guys new?” Then she looked at
me and said: “You've got women problems? Don’t worry,
Salsa will change all that.” I was shocked!
She turned out to be the instructor
for my beginners class. During the class, I wasn’t getting
the steps at all (I'd never done any form of dance before this),
but she kept encouraging me saying it was right and that all the
guys in the class should do what I was doing. I was embarrassed,
but I liked it.
After the class, she came to me and
said that I never needed to pay again, but that one day in the future
I should teach for her. She saw something in me and that was so
touching and positive that I started going there regularly. Eventually,
I realized that in a salsa club/class there is no ageism, racism,
sexism, etc. etc. etc. I loved the atmosphere and made so many friends
so quickly. It was a major attraction that kept me going for more.
Who was your first Salsa instructor
and what was the most important lesson you learned from him/her?
My first salsa instructor was Elli Galvani,
and she taught me many things: for someone to become a good dancer,
you have to have faith in him/her, like she had in me. And as an
instructor myself, there cannot be a bigger lesson to learn than
that.
Is teaching your full-time
occupation?
Yes sir, it is. And I love it. I travel
every weekend to a different country and teach different people
how to dance. How fullfilling is that?
I’m seeing more and more
of a tendency whereby anyone who’s a half decent dancer feels
almost automatically entitled to teach. What makes a good instructor
in your opinion?
Welcome to the salsa world. Everyone
and his mother is an instructor these days! There are many attributes
to being a good instructor. Mine personally is taking up a challenge
to see that someone becomes a good dancer, rather than how much
money you are going to earn from that person.
My students in London know that I cannot
tolerate many things, i.e., if someone does not belong in a group,
I tell them to leave. Whereas the other so-called-instructors don't
want to lose out on a potential money maker.
My biggest piece of advice to all instructors
out there is, be patient. Just because you can move your feet, does
not mean that everyone behind you can. And most importantly, love
what you do and the day you get bored of teaching, quit.
Let’s change the subject
a little. Do you prefer to dance on1 or on2? Why?
I have no preference at all. If the
lady wants to dance on1, I will, and if she wants to change during
the song to on2, I will. It's all up to my follower. I like dancing,
thats it... on1, on2, cuban, cumbia, merengue, bachata, cha cha,
whatever, I love it.
What does on1 salsa have and
on2 doesn’t and vice versa? Actually, let me rephrase the
questions slightly: what can you do in on2 that you can’t
do in on1 and vice versa.
Nothing. Everything that is done on1,
can be done on2 and vice-versa. People are going around and saying
things that don't make sense!
All good leaders/followers would know
what I am talking about. You can quote me on this: everything that
is done on1, can be done on2. These on1-on2 are just beats of the
same bar of music, so how can anything change. It shouldn't.
I’ve seen you dancing
on1 on a couple of Youtube videos, and the first thing I noticed
is that you were doing a lot of on2 moves. I guess a lot of people
take L.A. style to be the only form of on1 salsa. Yet, I’ve
also been watching the way Tropical Gem and Utribe social dance,
and they seem to have moved away from L.A. style while still dancing
on the 1. It seems to me that there’s more to one style than
the beat you break on. I can actually dance on the 2 but I’m
far from looking like an on2 dancer… What do you make of all
this?
(Laughs) Nice question. But let me ask
you something: What is an on2 move?
I started learning salsa the way I dance
today. At that time (1999) no one said anything about on1 or on2.
People were dancing in LA and NY without saying anything. I started
watching videos of people social dancing, and preferred what people
in NY were doing (aka dancing on2) rather than what people in LA
(aka dancing on1) were doing. In NY they were purely social dancing
to the music, whereas in LA they were doing a lot of show moves,
tricks, dips and lifts. That did not appeal to me, so I started
dancing like people from NY. Nothing to do with the fact that they
were dancing on1 or on2. I just liked what I saw - that's it. I
was never a fan of tricks and stuff. Social dancing is what salsa
is all about. People: when you watch youtube, please go back to
the '70s and take a look at how people were feeling the music and
dancing while a live band was jamming for them. There is nothing
like watching those people having fun. They didn't care about on1-on2;
they just danced, which is what I do.
The word in the street is that
you have one of the best leads in the whole wide world ;-) My questions
to you is, what is a lead? How would you define a lead? Is it something
that “I”, as a leader, impose on the follower –
or is it something else?
WOW, I have the best lead in the whole
wide world! I didnt know that. Thanks for letting me know. ;) I
have always focused on leading. Even in my early days of learning,
I was always careful when I did things. At some point, the use of
signals instead of power became obvious to me. Whenever I spoke
to the ladies, they always seemed to complain about how much power
the guys would use when it was not necessary at all. I put all this
into perspective and started focusing more on that side of leading.
Leading should be treated like a skill:
not everyone can understand it, but everyone can learn it. I tell
my students in London: think of flowers when you lead a lady, and
not a truck, meaning, why use force when all she needs is a signal.
And that's my answer to your question, of what is a lead.
People mistake power to make a woman
follow an intricate move; but when I teach that same move, I always
make sure the guys understand that if you were in the right place,
doing the right thing, you wouldn't need power at all. So, I would
not use the word 'impose'. ;-)
What is social dancing all
about really? Is it about having fun, is it about enjoying and interpreting
the music, is it about connecting to your partner, is it about looking
good and showing it to the world?
It's everything except the last one
(showing off to the world). In order of importance: it's about having
fun, making sure your partner is also having fun, enjoying the music
while intepreting it and staying connected.
I always tell people to go out because they want to dance and not
because Tuesday night is good at so-and-so club. I social dance
a lot and love it. I want to be in the middle of that beautiful
atmosphere, but there are days when I don't feel it, and so I will
not be there when I feel that way. So people need to understand
that part of social dancing. And guys: dance with as many advanced
dancers as beginners; your lead will get better that way. I live
for challenges, so dancing with beginners and intermediate students
is more fun for me when I go out social dancing.
As a social dancer, what do
you make of people that dance the same way on and off the stage?
I think the stage should be for shows
and the dance floor should be for social dancing. Mixing them up
is not good. I 'hate' couples who come off the stage and perform
on the dance-floor. It intimidates a lot of social dancers.
What type of music do you listen
to these days?
I like to listen to hip-hop when I'm
not listening to salsa. Outside a club/class, I never listen to
salsa. ;)
And if you're asking me what salsa music
I'm listening to at the moment, I have always loved El Gran Combo
and Hector Lavoe (Fania all stars).
What would you like to accomplish
with salsa in the next five years?
I never think like that. I feel that
what I've done so far has been a truly great accomplishment –
especially with your quote 'the best lead in the whole wide world',
and the great journeys into people's countries and hearts. I feel
truly blessed by that. But saying that, it has always been a dream
for me to teach online, so that people from all over the world can
take classes with me from the comfort of their homes. I thought
my DVDs would have done that, but now I'm going one step further
and doing live online streaming classes from London. So, now all
of you can take those classes with me. It starts on the 2nd week
of June, so keep an eye out for it. The website is www.salsaclass.tv.
I am excited about this project.
Have you ever been to Vancouver
?
No. But every year, I go to Toronto
twice. Once for workshops and the other for the Toronto Congress,
which I love. ;)
When will you honor us with
your visit?
I will be there one day, I promise.
But now that you have me in your TVs, you probably wouldn't want
me anyway ;)
People: stay well and enjoy your dancing,
and look out for me on your dance floor; I might be that guy next
to you.

For more information about Mario
and his instructional DVDs, visit his website millionmovesman.com
or his upcoming www.salsaclass.tv
site.
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